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Friday, July 01, 2005

Education - Some Ancient thoughts!

Based on a zen story
A youngster was back from his training under a great master. He had spent nearly 12 years in his school. His father asked him “Did you get anything new from your master that you did not have before?The son replied “No, Not at all”. The father asked “then what did you learn in these 12 years?” Son said “I learnt that no one can give you anything new that you did not have it already”. Father was pleased with his son.

From Vedantha
Maithreyi asked sage yagnyavalkiya “What happens to ones hard earned academic knowledge when one dies? Will it be carried over to next janma?” Sage said “No, it won’t, it burns down with the mortal body”.

Caveat: I could not find the original text of it. I must have read it somewhere. Please google for “Brihadaranyaka Upanishad” to know who are maithreyi and sage yagnyavalkiya.

Sanskrit “Subhashithani”

Na chor haryyam, cha na raj haryyam
Na bhratri bhajyam, na bharkari
Vyaye krte vardhate ave nityam
Vidya dhan sarva dhan pradhanam

Neither the thief can steal it, nor can the king take it
Neither divided amongst brothers, nor too heavy to carry
The more you expend it, the more it increases
Knowledge is the prime wealth


Vidya dadati vinayam,
vinaya dadati paatrataam,
paatratva dhanamaapnoti,
dhanat dharmam tatatsukham.

Education gives Humility; Humility gives Character; from character one gets wealth; from wealth one gets righteous (dharmam) life; from righteousness gets happiness.

Thirukural
Ennenba enai ezhuthenba ivirandum
Kanenba Vazhum uyirku.

Mathematics and Literature are the two eyes for human beings.


19 Comments:

  • PB, It was a pleasant read.

    Son said “I learnt that no one can give you anything new that you did not have it already”.
    Chancey ella ..

    Samskrita Subhashidhani Sooper! GMAT influence-a? :(

    -Vasu

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:55 AM  

  • Just thought I'd post the subhaashitaani's in Devanaagari:

    न चौरहार्यम् न च राज हार्यम् ।
    न भ्रातृभाज्यम् न च भारकारी ।।
    व्यये कृते वर्धत् एव नित्यं ।
    विद्या धनम् सर्व धन प्रधानम् ।।

    विद्या ददाति विनयम् विनयाद्याति पात्रताम् ।
    पात्रत्वा धनमाप्नोति धनात्धर्मम् ततः सुखम् ।।

    By Blogger సतीsh, at 2:28 PM  

  • vidhya dadhati vinayam sloka tha padikum pothu, my mind flew back to our school days da muthu...
    sanskrit ji than nyabagathuku vanthar....periyavar innum uyiroda irukara nu theriyala...

    intha slokam avaroda favourite...

    By Blogger The Soul Doctor, at 2:32 PM  

  • ... and in Telugu:

    న చోరహార్యం న చ రాజ హార్యం
    న భ్రాతృభాజ్యం న చ భారకారీ
    వ్యయే కృతే వరధత్ ఏవ నిత్యం
    విద్యా ధనం సర్వ ధన ప్రధానం

    విద్యా దదాతి వినయం వినయాద్యతి పాత్రతాం
    పాత్రత్వా దనంమాప్నోతి ధనాత్ధర్మం తతః సుఖం

    I wish I could have typed this up in Tamil too :-/
    Would be nice if someone that speaks / writes Tamil could post a Tamil transliteration.

    By Blogger సतीsh, at 2:33 PM  

  • noname annaiya ,
    Meeru yavaru? naaku thelusaa? anyways, comments ku chala thanksu.
    Please keep droping by.

    By Blogger P B, at 2:39 PM  

  • Karthik,
    very true. He was one of the good teachers who I did not make use of. May be because of that, I never able to improve my sanskrit knowledge. :=(.

    By Blogger P B, at 2:41 PM  

  • Dei ennada nee? Study for GMAT and then write about value of education, etc...:)

    KP.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:58 PM  

  • BhadrAha,

    Yennakku pudicha bashiyilla (Sanskrit)yezhuthuringa..

    Ongala mathiri, makkalukku (readers) naalu nallavarthaigal panivodu share panna intha Anniyankku rhomba rhomabave pidikkum..

    ( We don't need to lead from the front..but definitely guide from behind )
    - Anniyan

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:27 PM  

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    By Blogger Maayaa, at 11:53 PM  

  • pb good one..
    when i read this i remember avvaiyaar's saying which also conveys the same thing.
    "vellathaal pogaadhu; ven thanalaal vegaadhu
    kollathaan iyalaadhu; kodhuthalum neraivozhi kurai padaadhu.
    kalvarko miga aridhu; kaavalo miga elithu
    kalvi ennum porul ingu irukka ulagellaam porul thedi alaivadheno!!"

    By Blogger Maayaa, at 11:55 PM  

  • அன்புள்ள முத்துகுமார் அவர்களுக்கு,

    என்னதான் படித்தாலும் 'கல்வி' கூட வராது என்பதை மிக அருமையாக விவரித்தமைக்கு நன்றி.

    பஜ கோவிந்தம் பஜ கோவிந்தம்
    கோவிந்தம் பஜ மூடமதே!
    சம்ப்ராப்தே சந்நிஹிதே காலே
    நஹி நஹி ரக்ஷதி டுக்ரிஞ்கரணே!

    விவேகமற்றவனே! கோவிந்தனை வழிபடு, கோவிந்தனை வழிபடு, கோவிந்தனை வழிபடு, மரண காலம் நெருங்கிய பொழுது 'டுக்ரிஞ்கரணே' போன்ற வியாகரண தாது பாடம் உன்னை ஒருக்காலும் காப்பாற்றவே காப்பாற்றாது.

    (பஜகோவிந்தம், கண்ணதாசன் விரிவுரை)

    கல்வி வேண்டாமென்று பொருளல்ல; விநயத்தையும் பக்தியையும் கலந்து கற்கும் கல்வியானது எல்லோருக்கும் உபயோகப்படும் என்றே எடுத்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டும்.

    என்றும் அன்புடன்,
    ரங்கநாதன்

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:52 AM  

  • Education is meaningless if there is no humility.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:15 AM  

  • Ranganathan,
    Indha blog in concept iye padam pidithu kaatum matrum orum padaluku nadndri. Infact I thot of same stanza when I wrote this. Kalvi enbadhu nammai etri arivai nokki etri sellum vaganam. Adhu palliyil mattume kidaikum endru nambuvadhu ariveenam. Dathahtreyarin kadhai unarthum karuthu idhuve. Oru naal avarai patri ezhudha vendum.

    Anonymous:
    Valluvar kooda idhaiye solgirar. "Adakam amararul uikum". Humaility places man among gods.
    Priya:
    Sooper song to bolster the greatness of education.

    By Blogger P B, at 9:42 AM  

  • PB,
    good one again. I feel like I am reading my mind out, while reading your blogs. incidentally naanum idha base panni dhan oru blog ezhudhalamnu aramichen, but thrisangu sorgathula uttu vechu irukken, to get people's input. time kadikkarche padichu parungo. :-)
    this one

    Also I was reading your side bar and I have expressed exactly the same thought in one of my blogs too.
    this one

    By Blogger sb, at 3:02 PM  

  • enna pb!!!
    matter angeye nikkudhu!! nyanabhoomiyin adutha veliyeedu eppo???;)

    By Blogger Maayaa, at 8:48 PM  

  • Vidhya Vinaya Sampanne . There is a sloka that goes on in Bhagavath Gita I think Chapter 6.
    So invariably every scripture worth its name suggests that HUMILITY SHOULD BE THE BY-PRODUCT OF VIDYA

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:29 AM  

  • Thank you srnivas for your iputs and for drooping by. Wish to read more from you.

    By Blogger P B, at 4:36 PM  

  • thanks for these nice reads

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:49 AM  

  • just thought to brush up the good stuff read in high school...this one also goes with the same set :

    Eshaam na vidya tapo na daanam ,

    gyaanam na sheelam na guno na dharma ,

    te martyaloke bhuvibhaarbhoota ,
    manushyaroopen mrigaashcharanti.

    By Blogger kaviraj, at 1:10 AM  

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